NCT, CT, DT Diagram

Humm, is this diagram really stating what a person espousing that position would agree to or is it defining a position without respect to what the conversation is in that theological position?NCT, CT, DT_Diagram see also www.disciplemaking.net … [Read more...]

Understanding the Big Picture Options of Eschatology and its relationship to Ecclesiology

This chart of mine is used to explain the overall landscape of the relationship Ecclesiology (doctrine of the church) to Eschatology (Doctrine of last things or end times).  Along the spectrum of Ecclesological position that people take today is Classical Covenant Theology (CCT) at one end and Classical Dispensational theology (CDT) at the other end (CCT---------------------------------------CDT), with several options in the middle (one of which is New Covenant Theology (what is what I currently hold at leas in one the various branches).  All sides would claim that they hold to a literal interpretation of the Bible.   To help one understand this a little better one needs to know how that Ecclesiastical position: defines the people of God throughout time  places the covenants (both biblical and theological) in relationship to each other, and  especially the relationship between the the church with respect to Israel.   In Classical Covenant Theology (held by some church fathers - … [Read more...]

A overriding purpose of grace

I believe that there are covenants that can be classified as a "covenant of grace", but I cannot hold biblically to an actual covenant of Grace, since it is not revealed in scripture explicitly and clearly.  I am OK with using the description "covenant of grace" to denote God's gracious purpose over all covenants as well.  God does have a "purpose of grace."John Zens talks about this in:  Is There A "Covenant Of Grace?"see also www.disciplemaking.net … [Read more...]

Dispenationalism vs Covenantalism

Here are 2 good videos showing how we should hold to our theological systems with humility. The problem with Dispensationalism and Covenantalism is that they cannot critique themselves with Scripture. This video will help you understand how to deal with the unity and diversity within Scripture. ---------- see also www.disciplemaking.net … [Read more...]

Theology Can Kill � joethorn.net

Theology Can Kill by Joe Thorn Depending on the tribe you belong to, the term “pastor/theologian” might be seen either as a redundant, or oxy-moronic expression. Some view the pastor as a practitioner, and the theologian as a theoretician; two separate roles. Others, like those of us in Acts 29, understand the pastor to be a leading theologian among the people he is called by God shepherd. At the recent Acts 29 Bootcamp in Louisville, KY I was given the opportunity to lead a break out session in the Pastor as Resident Theologian Track. The title of my session was, “How Theology Can Kill Your Church.” If the audio is made available, I’ll link to it[Now available: here]. I sought to make four basic points. Theology Can Kill Your Church (Plant) when: 1. Your Theology is Under-developedUnder-developed theology leaves your church defenseless against false doctrine and heresy, and corrupts the spiritual growth of the body. We need a robust theological confession and culture in our … [Read more...]

What Is New Covenant Theology? | NCJ

Here is a good overview ofWhat Is New Covenant Theology? | NCJCT = Covenant TheologyNCT = New Covenant TheologyDT = Dispensational Theologysome of the salient points include: New Covenant Theology is not new Covenant Theology. New Covenant Theology is basically a biblical-theological understanding of the purpose of Scripture, an explanation of its primary theme, a way of describing how the Bible itself puts together its various parts. New Covenant Theology does not question the integrity or motives of those who hold to CT and DT. Covenant Theology assumes two covenants between God and man: The Covenant of Works and The Covenant of Grace.  Covenant Theology believes that from Genesis 3 through the end of Revelation, the Bible’s primary message is the outworking of the Covenant of Grace. Dispensationalism believes that God has planned a succession of different dispensations throughout history, both past, present, and future Dispensationalism  claims it is of major importance to … [Read more...]

Theological Systems Compared

Theological Systems Compared: " Dispensationalism - Progressive DispensationalismCovenant Theology - New Covenant Theology Legend:DISP - DispensationalismPD - Progressive DispensationalismCT - Covenant TheologyNCT - New Covenant Theology Definition of Terms:Physical Israel - physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and JacobSpiritual Israel - the elect of God, all those in Christ, whether Jew or GentileUniversal Church - all the elect of God from all timeVisible Church - a local assembly of baptized believers in Christ, joined by covenant for worship and fellowship (These statements are generally true of those who hold to a specific system of theology, however this list is not to be considered comprehensive. Some of this material has been compiled from several resources available online and some of it is original work resulting from the study of these issues by Phillip M. Way.)1. Stance regarding the Doctrines of Grace DISP - Usually not CalvinisticPD - Some not CalvinisticCT - Almost … [Read more...]

Theological Systems Compared � TIME in the Word Ministries

Here is a good comparison between Dispensational Theology, Progressive Dispensational Theology, Covenant Theology and New Covenant Theology:Theological Systems Compared � TIME in the Word Ministries see also www.disciplemaking.net … [Read more...]

The Parable of the Two Trains: Old/New Covenants (Part 3)

Here is part 3 of: The Parable of the Two Trains: Old/New Covenants (3) by Pastor Mark Webb. In the first article I sought to illustrate Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism using the figure of trains, tracks, and engineers.Covenant Theology was depicted as one train (i.e. God’s people) running through history on one track (i.e. one covenant of grace) picking up passengers as it goes. At the appropriate time, Christ replaces Moses as engineer (i.e. a change of covenant administra­tors). Dispensationalism was depicted as two separate trains (i.e. Israel and the Church) running one at a time through history on two separate tracks (i.e. two distinct covenants), with Moses the engineer of one train and Christ the engineer of the other. In the last article, I set forth an alternative model: A train called “Moses” runs through the Old Testament age bringing its passengers over to a station where a train called “Jesus” awaits on another set of tracks. A call goes out that all … [Read more...]

The Parable of the Two Trains: Old/New Covenants (2)

Here is part 2 of The Parable of the Two Trains: Old/New Covenants by Mark Webb: Previously I sought to illustrate the differences between Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism by the use of trains and train tracks. Let me quickly review. Covenant Theology was described as one train on one track but with two engineers. Originally, Moses was the engineer as it chugged its way through the Old Testament times. Then, at the juncture of the Old and New ages, Christ replaces Moses as the new engineer. This model seeks to emphasize the continuity of Covenant Theology. There’s only one covenant (one track) but two admin­istrators (two engineers)–first, Moses, and, later, Jesus. The passengers on this train can be called “Israel” or “the Church” interchangeably. Dispensationalism, on the other hand, was depicted as two separate trains on two separate tracks. One train has Moses as its engi­neer and runs on the Old Covenant track. Its passengers are called “Israel”. … [Read more...]